castro, jerry sandusky and this individual, james dimaggio, all of whom were able to carry out their crimes and really fly under the radar screen for a very long time. when you see people able to do that, it's because they put out there that life-style that appears to be very normal, and when we do see the red flag, at least in my experience, when people see things that are odd or unusual or they question, they'll have a ways to rationalize it, normalize it or explain it way. they don't just look at somebody and say, this person could end up being a kidnapper in 20 years. what we try to do with teaching the public is to be aware of people that have access to your children. and if you see something, even if it's small, don't just let it go by. don't just ignore it. really have to take hard look at that behavior. >> as it pertains to, in this case, the alleged kidnapper, alleged killer, isn't it a situation where this person so ende endears themselves to a family and really looking forward to an opportunity in which they really do reveal themselves? >> it could have been he was looking